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#21 Fatty

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 10:36 PM

http://old.wowhead.com/item=11648 This is the 8 int on head/legs enchant.

http://old.wowhead.com/item=11622 This is the 150 mana enchant on head/legs. 150 mana was not possible to get the last time i checked.

Your guide is perfect for "Help me be the best priest i can be", but for overall raiding it does not hurt to go with different speccs than the standard 21/30. Like i said we had anywhere from 3-4 PI specced priests and we managed to down 10 bosses in Naxx. I was the first in the guild to try it out, and i noticed very little change in my most used healing spells (my Heal rank 1 which was my standard tank healing spell did 1100 instead of 1200) and i could boost mages a decent amount for 15 seconds. The only thing that really suffers from going 31/20 instead of 21/30 is your renew. But you only really need 1 maxxed out renew priest, which we had anyway. Im not saying that every single priest should swop over to PI specc, but having some of your 1k+ healing priest try it out won't hurt. There are several fights in Naxx where a 15 sec nuke can help the raid.

On fights where you have massive amounts of adds it is way better to go silent resolve over martyrdom. Scarabs on Anub'rekhan, spiders trash, Noth adds, Gluth adds and so on will rape a priest if they start attacking. Then it wont matter if you have martyrdom, because you will keep building threat as you heal yourself. When you are progressing on these bosses mistakes happen and priests will get chased down by adds, so avoiding this for as long as possible is a major bonus.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 09:51 AM

When I was still playing priest I was downranking flash for trash depending of the health deficit that character had. Don't know why you guys ditch downranking of FH.
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:36 PM

Indaco, i used to use 24 consumables each fight, BWL+. I farmed 10 hours a week consumables (i got connections). And my account is banned now. I will post some healing meters soon though! if i get acces to a guildsite.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 01:01 PM

Amazing work.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 04:38 PM

Indaco, here are a few of me healing. Ofcourse i toke the fights where i had a considerable healing job (not MCing at faerlina or flash heal rank 1 spam at maexxna):

http://i.imgur.com/cfeaQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/X7jSs.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/mJji2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pvljw.jpg

These are from quite a while ago, and i improved during this time quite a lot. Making this guide also made me play the priest better myself.

Edit: Taken right from the SoS website: http://sultansofswing.shivtr.com/forums/442513.
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:27 PM

Egregious gonna be all pumped up after the last image! HUUURRRRRRRR

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:41 PM

GRRRR STRENGTH!!!!

It really more like this though:
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:56 PM

View PostE-gorgeous, on 22 June 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:


On those meters, pff, it must have been my bot playing there ^^.

P.S. I also love you egregious, but as alliance!
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:18 PM

View Postindaco, on 23 June 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Not bad jindo ^^ considering you play alliance ^^
Gonna edit tomorrow with my healing meters :)

Still is you should add in your guide how heal on most of naxx or aq40 boss

Will be done after mah test week k?
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:08 AM

how mad will you be after using every consumable able to get in game, downranking flashheals to save mana and then anyways got 1 shotted by 3 dynamites in BWL ? ._.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

Thats a case that would never happen to me. On those packs i use greater fire protection potions. I gotn 5.4k HP without titans. They will need to throw like 8 dynamites at me to be even close at killing me. Consumables are the way to go at raiding.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:37 PM

Edited with FAQ included consisting of the current hot questions. I also feel the responsibility to add some questions that were asked elsewhere of priests.
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 09:44 AM

lal at using 1k worth of consumables for Nefarian
thank you for the guide, even though this could be a lot shorter and easier to get through

good point about flask, I always laughed at people flasking to show how hardcore they are, then maybe using 1 mana potion in entire fight ))
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:22 AM

View PostLube, on 09 August 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

lal at using 1k worth of consumables for Nefarian
I had an income of 8k a week, so why not?
thank you for the guide, even though this could be a lot shorter and easier to get through
Let's just say, this guide is not casuals.
good point about flask, I always laughed at people flasking to show how hardcore they are, then maybe using 1 mana potion in entire fight ))
Hmm, I think you forgot that flasks last two hours, so it also helps in trash pulls (gives lots of healing), during other boss fights and people that dont have mana potions/dark runes on CD on BWL+ are either slacking or your raid has tooo many healers ^^.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 08:35 PM

Jindo why do you go for +healing vs +spirit? Every old classic guide I remember said that stacking spirit gave you the best mana sustain in a fight which was (back in the day) considerably more important than having an extra bit of +healing. Can you explain your thoughts on this, pros/cons? I remember the big scream of rage from the human priests when draenei priests came because the Drae had far better mana maitenance. I assume that in your experience perhaps better to have plenty of mana pots? Any clarification is great :)

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:16 PM

View PostCynicalMagician, on 30 August 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Jindo why do you go for +healing vs +spirit? Every old classic guide I remember said that stacking spirit gave you the best mana sustain in a fight which was (back in the day) considerably more important than having an extra bit of +healing. Can you explain your thoughts on this, pros/cons? I remember the big scream of rage from the human priests when draenei priests came because the Drae had far better mana maitenance. I assume that in your experience perhaps better to have plenty of mana pots? Any clarification is great :)

Well, It is quite easy. just 25% of your spirit gets converted into healing. Spirit needs A lot of it to get mana regen. 13 spirit = 1 mp5s, and 6.67 spirit is 1 mp5s with the tier 2 set bonus. But spirit does not regen while casting, while mp5s does. Now, when you get more healing power you are able to downrank way more. I Will sum it up now:

1. Spirit gives just 25% of it to healing and 6.67 spirit (with 3/8 t2) is just 1 mp5s.
2. Mp5s always gives mana regen and spirit doesnt. You always cast continuous so the part of mp5s at spirit is only useful.
3. Healing power stacking is good to downrank and always works in both trash and boss fights.
4. For mana regen you got buffs and mana pots/dark runes (consuambles more).

Only the slacking priests get oom when spamming heal rank 4. If you use enough consumables you will get the perfect mana regen. At a time I had 250 mp5s on my priest. And also 1150 BH. Both buffed. Spirit is good when you get naxx gear (because it got spirit), but till then mp5s and healing is the way to go!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:19 AM

View PostJindoPriform, on 30 August 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

[...]But spirit does not regen while casting, while mp5s does.[...]
You have no meditation talent or...? Ofc you regen mana from spirit while casting, because you _took_ the talent for it, didn't you? :)

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:21 AM

So Heal Power and MP5 to start and end game more spirit. Thanks for the info, though I don't know why you would be -endlessly- casting. Now i don't know how Feenix works but on live you could go for the greater heal stop casting trick and you'd be out of combat (all it took was 5 seconds, so you could keep casting then slight move to stop it if the greater heal wasn't needed) If it never was released you were in constant spirit mana regen. But this is an old trick and i'm not certain it works here -or- is viable in the higher raids.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:48 AM

Took the time to look these all up on wowhead, the information may be wrong, clarification from learned priests is required.



- Head: Cassandra’s Grace ( +44 healing, 7 spirit and 9 stamina, 55 armor) World Drop (According to WoW Head)
- Neck: Animated chain necklace ( +33 healing, 6 spirit and 7 stamina) Ramstein Stratholme Dead
- Shoulders: Mantle of Lost Hope (+26 healing, 3mp5s, 11 intellect and 5 stamina, 57 armor) Lord Roccor Black Rock Depths
- Back: Hide of the Wild (+42 healing, 10 intellect and 8 stamina, 48 armor) Leatherworking Recipe
- Chest: Robes of the Exalted (+68 healing, 11 spirit and 5 intellect, 89 armor) Lord Aurius Rivendare Stratholme Dead
- Wrist: Bracers of Hope (+18 healing, 12 spirit, 11 intellect and 10 stamina, 41 armor) World Drop(?) Wowhead had no info.
- Weapon: The Hammer of Grace (+31 healing) Doom`rel Black Rock Depths
- Offhand: Lei of the Life giver (+53 healing and 3mp5s) Alterac Valley Reward
- 2H: Redemption (+66 healing and 11 spirit) Willey Hopebreak Stratholme Live
- Wand: Any +healing wand (20-33 Healing)
- Trinket 1: Darkmoon Card: Blue Moon (2% to get 100% mana regenerate) or the DM trinket Beast deck, DM Trinket? (Clarify what this is please.)
- Trinket 2 : Second wind (+22 Healing and use: 300 mana over 10 seconds) Golem Lord Argelmach Black Rock Depths
- Ring 1: Rosewine Circle (+29 Healing and 5mp5s) Urock Doomhowl Lower Black Rock Spire
- Ring 2: Band of Mending (+31 Healing, 6 spirit, 7 intellect and 7 stamina) Stratholme zone drop(?) Wowhead is unclear.
- Feet: Faith Healer’s Boots (+26 healing, 12 spirit, 12 intellect and 10 stamina, 61 armor) Warchief Rend Blackhand Upper Black Rock Spire
- Legs: Padre’s Trousers (+42 Healing, 6mp5s and 20 intellect, 76 armor) Illyanna Ravenoak Dire Maul West
- Waist: Whipvine Cord (+31 Healing, 6mp5s and 9 intellect, 47 armor) Alzzin the Wildshaper Dire Maul East
- Hands: Hands of the Exalted Herald (+33 Healing, 12 spirit and 13 intellect, 52 armor) Princess Moira Bronzebeard Black Rock Depths (Supposedly doesn't drop if you're not on a quest chain? Unclear.)

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:53 PM

View PostSnelf, on 31 August 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:

You have no meditation talent or...? Ofc you regen mana from spirit while casting, because you _took_ the talent for it, didn't you? :)

Not sure if serious or just stupid.....
Snelf, I would have expected better from you. Read the whole post and then comment again....

View PostCynicalMagician, on 31 August 2012 - 05:21 AM, said:

So Heal Power and MP5 to start and end game more spirit. Thanks for the info, though I don't know why you would be -endlessly- castingBecause the raid takes damage all the time, at most boss fights, instead of just once every 5 seconds. Also MT healing (in which priests are the best) requires consistent healing. Some people say overhealing is bad, but definitly not when you are healing a tank because it can proc the inspiration talent (the tank takes even less damage).. Now i don't know how Feenix works but on live you could go for the greater heal stop casting trick and you'd be out of combat (all it took was 5 seconds, so you could keep casting then slight move to stop it if the greater heal wasn't needed) If it never was released you were in constant spirit mana regen. But this is an old trick and i'm not certain it works here -or- is viable in the higher raids.As I mentioned, the inspiration buff makes up for this bigtime. Expecially since you shouldn't use greater heals that much, they cause way too much overhealing (you could also go for heal which also procs the inspiration buff). All this is mentioned in my guide.

View PostCynicalMagician, on 31 August 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

Took the time to look these all up on wowhead, the information may be wrong, clarification from learned priests is required.



- Head: Cassandra’s Grace ( +44 healing, 7 spirit and 9 stamina, 55 armor) World Drop (According to WoW Head)
- Neck: Animated chain necklace ( +33 healing, 6 spirit and 7 stamina) Ramstein Stratholme Dead
- Shoulders: Mantle of Lost Hope (+26 healing, 3mp5s, 11 intellect and 5 stamina, 57 armor) Lord Roccor Black Rock Depths
- Back: Hide of the Wild (+42 healing, 10 intellect and 8 stamina, 48 armor) Leatherworking Recipe
- Chest: Robes of the Exalted (+68 healing, 11 spirit and 5 intellect, 89 armor) Lord Aurius Rivendare Stratholme Dead
- Wrist: Bracers of Hope (+18 healing, 12 spirit, 11 intellect and 10 stamina, 41 armor) World Drop(?) Wowhead had no info.AD scourgestone thingy.
- Weapon: The Hammer of Grace (+31 healing) Doom`rel Black Rock Depthsalso from the vault
- Offhand: Lei of the Life giver (+53 healing and 3mp5s) Alterac Valley Reward
- 2H: Redemption (+66 healing and 11 spirit) Willey Hopebreak Stratholme Live
- Wand: Any +healing wand (20-33 Healing) world drop
- Trinket 1: Darkmoon Card: Blue Moon (2% to get 100% mana regenerate) or the DM trinket Beast deck, DM Trinket? (Clarify what this is please.) Darkmoon card trinket, from the beasts deck.
- Trinket 2 : Second wind (+22 Healing and use: 300 mana over 10 seconds) Golem Lord Argelmach Black Rock Depths
- Ring 1: Rosewine Circle (+29 Healing and 5mp5s) Urock Doomhowl Lower Black Rock Spire
- Ring 2: Band of Mending (+31 Healing, 6 spirit, 7 intellect and 7 stamina) Stratholme zone drop(?) Wowhead is unclearfrom sathos and jarien (d2)
- Feet: Faith Healer’s Boots (+26 healing, 12 spirit, 12 intellect and 10 stamina, 61 armor) Warchief Rend Blackhand Upper Black Rock Spire
- Legs: Padre’s Trousers (+42 Healing, 6mp5s and 20 intellect, 76 armor) Illyanna Ravenoak Dire Maul West
- Waist: Whipvine Cord (+31 Healing, 6mp5s and 9 intellect, 47 armor) Alzzin the Wildshaper Dire Maul East
- Hands: Hands of the Exalted Herald (+33 Healing, 12 spirit and 13 intellect, 52 armor) Princess Moira Bronzebeard Black Rock Depths (Supposedly doesn't drop if you're not on a quest chain? Unclear.) correct

Its correct.
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