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[Eisenberg]

I would like to ask what stretegies does experienced alliance warlocks use to fight undead horde rogues. Personally, im just using living action potion + death coil + dots. Its primitive but effective solution in many cases. However, iv noticed that good rogue momentarily after i pop out potion, either recloak and attack agian when stun protection expires, or just use blind , and wait to resume attack.

[Oid]

Experienced alliance warlocks are in T3...no strategy required...

Farm gear

[Tamm]

its imposible to kill skilled becksteb UNDET rouge with reflectar if u r not in SL spec )

[Eisenberg]

Im assuming in my question that they dont have reflector.

 Oid, on 08 August 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Experienced alliance warlocks are in T3...no strategy required...

Farm gear

Through combination of carefull items choosing and multiple set bonuses i already have 5250 HP and 700 sp with activated trinket, but it does me no good if rogue stunlock me.

[indaco]

Living action + cloaking device

[Eisenberg]

 indaco, on 08 August 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Living action + cloaking device

But isnt this cloaking device work like invisiblity potion so that when i use it neither enemy can see me or i can see him ?

[Drakon]

http://old.wowhead.com/item=4984

Use it directly after the LAP (HP/Mana drain is less severe in 1.12.1 patch). Remember you need to have it equiped for 30s beforehand, so anticipate the situation.
Nearly every half-way decent rogue I fought on Feenix tried to counter a LAP with Blind (vs me as a warrior).
I wouldn't see Vanish after LAP being a bigger problem: Just use rank1 Rain of Fire (I get them out with Demo/Piercing).

[narilith]

take succubus seduce him and then fear him out of this realm, racial immunity is only for 5 seconds so use seduce to gain some time between stuns he will probably use will of the forsaken or insignia by now so use death coil (only if he used wotf otherwise just seduce him again), dot him up so he can kiss your ass no moar stealth for a few seconds, if he is BS speced just jump arround like loco and throw dots in his face so he can't get enough CP for another kidney or so

[Drakon]

Seduce is broken faster with wotf/insignia than you can cast fear. Meaning your fear will get kicked. :x

[narilith]

If you read closely that thing about fear is just meant as phrase. I explained tactics after it ^^ and kicking fear is all about skill and nerves of player, good warlock know how to fake cast and at the other hand good rogue predict moves of his enemy or just have improved kick.

[Drakon]

Well, DC+dot up is exactly what the OP does already and he asked for alternatives in case the rogue tries to avoid that.

Trying to play interrupt meta game versus a rogue is not that effective imo.
You barely have chances to get a non-instant cast through. If kick is on CD there's still Gouge, KS, Vanish+CS and Blind (+ mb grenade).

[Eisenberg]

Thanks for all answers, seems to me that so farr this skull mentioned by Drakon is my best bet, perhaps i could make a macro which would pop out it same time as living action potion. Could anyone tell me what Cd does it got ?

[narilith]

 Eisenberg, on 08 August 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

Thanks for all answers, seems to me that so farr this skull mentioned by Drakon is my best bet, perhaps i could make a macro which would pop out it same time as living action potion. Could anyone tell me what Cd does it got ?

according to old wowhead and db.***.com 5 minutes and if you meant potion 2 minutes but wowhead says only 1 minute, i guess it's because wowhead is pre-cata

[VmpX]

Seduce @ 1-0.5 sec. left of CS -> Nade -> (90% he will wotf into nade, he can't aford to lose stunlock vs warlock) -> GG.

[Stryth]

LIVING ACTION POT PROB SOLVED
U'll defeat any roga undet

[Tamm]

 VmpX, on 08 August 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

Seduce @ 1-0.5 sec. left of CS -> Nade -> (90% he will wotf into nade, he can't aford to lose stunlock vs warlock) -> GG.

gut rouge always use wotf BEFORE seduction's cast ends, always when he saw "seduction" warning from witch hunt addon or etc
and those 5 sec r enought for rape ur ass, but yes, who care, its theory craft topic

[Professor]

just watch out when you see a rogue and in bgs try to get atleast 1 dot on him. in world pvp just stay on guard:P

[Stryth]

Succubus? I prefer to play with Felhunter (paranoia + perception <3)
So you have better chances to open 1st, yea, no cheapshot)

[Dabnie]

Tidal charm is the easy tactic....good luck with that.

[Inverse]

can't tidal charm while stunned